To be totally honest, I believe it built as Universal and I just needed to set it so on the NetBoot set. It seemed to "just work" this time, but I did it awhile ago now. In Tiger I had to create the set on one platform (Intel), then go to PPC and run the Update Architecture item from the NetRestore menu item. Mike On May 16, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Stranathan, Dan wrote: So does the boot image (the NetRestore set) have to be partitioned as APM? My Leopard 10.5.2 server NetBoots Intel Macs but not PPC Macs. I use Bombich's NetRestore and NetRestore Helper. I only have a couple PPC Macs here (99% are Intel), so I havent bothered "fixing" my server yet, but it would be nice to be able to boot and image/restore PPC Macs in a pinch. -D On 5/16/08 12:48 PM, "Mike Wyant Jr" <email@hidden> wrote: [...] We have a Leopard NetRestore set that boots PPC and Intel Macs; it works great. Mike [...]]]>
Just to be clear, I'm not actually imaging any machines. What I have is an arbitrary number of clients that use this Netboot image. The client machines themselves are not re-imaged at any point. Are you suggesting that at boot time the client computers can be added to a pre-existing group (that I'll be managing the preferences for)? Would there be a way to then remove the client from the group so that it's preferences are not managed if it boots to some other shared resource?]]>
[...] We have a Leopard NetRestore set that boots PPC and Intel Macs; it works great. Mike [...]]]>
[...] It sounds like if you're referring image-to-image, then you are referring computer group-to-computer group. Basically, set up Computer Groups that represent the image and dump the newly imaged machines in those groups. If you are already doing Computer Group [...]]]>
Good suggestion, thanks. This isn't something I'm terribly familiar with. I know you can do client management on a user/group/computer basis but I'm not sure how that meshes with my setup. If I want to manage the preferences for any user of an image (that is, any user logging in should have the same login item execute) where does that management go? It's scoped to the image, not to a user, set of users, computer, or set of computers. It's worth noting that the image has a single user baked in, and that user is set to automatically log in. Still, if I have to manage the user's preferences I want to limit them to the single image in question. Thanks again, Andy]]>
On May 16, 2008, at 6:19 AM, Stranathan, Dan wrote: Matthew Isleb <email@hidden> wrote: [...] asr doesn't care what partition table you use. It only looks at the individual partitions and filesystems. [...] Yes, this is why I couldn't just install directly to the PPC machine [...]]]>
[...] If you do an asr clone, that clones the contents of one partition onto the contents of another partition, irrespective of the overall partitioning type of the source or destination, so it's not a problem. -- Nigel Kersten http://explanatorygap. [...]]]>
[...] How did you get your Mac Book Pro partitioned with APM for Leopard in order to get it moved over to your PPC Mac? I assumed you must have partitioned it with APM right? As I understand it, Intel Macs (EFI) will boot from both APM and GUID partition maps and PPC (Open Firmware) can only boot from APM. I have tried to install the Leopard DVD onto Intel Macs and force the installer to allow me to put Leopard on an APM disk, but it refuses (Apple is sending a signal I think - they wanna make APM go bye-bye). What makes the process trickier is the fact that Intel (EFI) Macs can boot from FireWire and USB, but the older PPC (OF) Macs can only boot from FireWire. Take it a step further and you will discover that the Leopard DVD is a dual-layer DVD and isn't available on CD ROMs, which causes problems with older Mac optical drives (I have some eMacs that refuse to boot or even mount the Leopard DVD). I have a work around for this gotcha. I bought a Plextor external dual-layer DVD burner on newegg.com (with both USB 2 & FireWire 400 I/O). Works on every combination of Mac. I very rarely every have to use it for booting/installing an OS, but when you need it you really need it. Never hurts to have a portable burner too. Dual-layer disks are handy sometimes. Anyway, just curious how you did it. I'm lucky and don't have many legacy Macs here, but occasionally I unearth one. BTW: Will Leopard's NetBoot server boot PPC and Intel Macs from the same NetBoot image?]]>
I've never gotten a PPC-based mac to boot from USB without a lot of unstable trickery... ~ian On May 16, 2008, at 12:16 AM, Patrick Gallagher wrote: - Original message - [...] Actually, all USB 2.0 Macs, incl PPC can. Sent from Gmail for mobile [...]]]>
- Original message - [...] Actually, all USB 2.0 Macs, incl PPC can. Sent from Gmail for mobile On 5/15/08, Don Montalvo <email@hidden> wrote: [...] Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Patrick Gallagher Emory University ACSA, A+, Network+, RHCT http://patgmac.blogspot. [...]]]>
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On May 15, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Josh Wisenbaker wrote: On May 15, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Don Montalvo wrote: Matthew Isleb <email@hidden> wrote: [...] Really?! That's the first I heard a Mac can boot off USB. I guess I should try this. Anyone have a spare MacBook Air for me to test? [...]]]>
[...] You can do this. You can also nest an OD group inside the local admin group, which gives you a much more flexible way of managing administrative rights, while still being able to audit admin access and tie it back to specific people. [...]]]>
[...] I really like my MBA, and my first trip with it in a plane is coming up tomorrow (West Coast USA to Eastern Europe). Of course I spend most of my day on desktops (both my main machine, and a row of test machines), so the MBA is just when I am in meetings, on the train (not [...]]]>
[...] On the InstaDMG forum there is a package for installing an account. I have a GUI underway to make a factory for those packages (and add a few more things), but it is not quite ready (or even useful) yet. But in the mean time you can still get the manual version that Pete Akins [...]]]>
We are in a 1:1 environment (1400 laptops) and looking at InstaDMG for imaging our laptops and desktop this summer as we move to 10.5. One of the considerations is how to handle the local admin account that we had normally created on our image. So I have 2 questions. 1. [...]]]>
On May 15, 2008, at 4:41 PM, Andy Klepack wrote: > quoted text This is a perfect place to use mcx policy to define these things. That way you don't need to ever twiddle the image. Josh -- Josh Wisenbaker, ACSA http://www.afp548.com Changing the world one server at a time. [...]]]>
On May 15, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Matthew Isleb wrote: On May 15, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Don Montalvo wrote: Matthew Isleb <email@hidden> wrote: [...] I have lots of customers that are taking them in. I had one for a month and now that I am back in my 17" MBP I really, really miss the MBA. [...]]]>
On May 15, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Don Montalvo wrote: Matthew Isleb <email@hidden> wrote: [...] My InstaDMG testing has booted all sorts of stuff, including the Air. [...] I booted it off of a USB disk and imaged it. Josh -- Josh Wisenbaker U, U, D, D, L, R, L, R, B, A, Start for your server [...]]]>
On May 15, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Don Montalvo wrote: Matthew Isleb <email@hidden> wrote: [...] Oh, i don't know about the Air. Any computer that lacks ethernet, optical drive, and firewire and ISN'T some kind of appliance doesn't exist as far as I am concerned. [...]]]>
I have an existing Netboot image that works fine. There is a default user account set to automatically log in and that user has a couple of login items that execute as expected. I want to add a Terminal command (myfile.command) as yet another login item for that user. [...]]]>
[...] What about MacBook Air? I haven't ordered one yet, probably won't because we simply don't use wireless in enterprise, but can our Leopard build work on it? If so, how do you build it in a non-NetBoot/ NetInstall environment...there's no FW port. [...]]]>
[...] OS X is pretty forgiving about switching hardware. The only times you really need to maintain different images is PPC vs. Intel and certain newer Intel machines which seem to use different OpenGL frameworks. That is, with Tiger. With Leopard, however, none of that should be necessary. [...]]]>
[...] Having a separate image for each model is not necessary. Here are the basic rules: - In most cases a generic install of a point version (ie: 10.5.2 or 10.5.1) can be used on any computer that was out when that point version came out. [...]]]>
You could - for best practices. However, as long as your machines weren't released a month ago you should be safe to just distinguish between PPC and Intel for your images. All the relevant drivers should work fine. On May 15, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Jennie Henzel wrote: [...] [...]]]>
When creating images, I have heard that you should create an image for each form factor - use an emac to create an emac image, ibook G4 - ibook G4 image, etc. So, I suppose I was trying to understand if the reason for that was if there was something unique to the OS for each form factor or if it was what happened after the OS was installed during the process of installing all the other components of the image. Can someone tell me if this theory is correct, regarding creating images for each form factor? I work in a school and we have iBook G4's, eMacs, MacBooks, and Intel iMacs. Thank you.]]>
I am having a problem booting an iMac (the new Aluminum 7,1 model) diskless. I thought perhaps that it was something that I did since I had moved the images to a second drive (RAid1 array in bays 2/3), but I've tried what I know and can't seem to get it to boot diskless. [...]]]>
On May 6, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Peter Bukowinski wrote: On 5/6/08 2:49 PM, "Rusty Zink Myers" <email@hidden> wrote: > quoted text
Here's the weirdest part about it, when I add ilife to the SIU workflow, and use the choose pacakges to install command, I can check iLife and choose to install it! [...]]]>Title: Re: iLife 08 and Leopard Installer disc and 10.5.2 SIU On 5/6/08 2:49 PM, "Rusty Zink Myers" <email@hidden> wrote: Yeah, I can get iLife on an instaDMG workflow fine, but the problem there is that it creates another image to deploy, not a networked leopard installer disc that I can use to upgrade or archive and install. If I used parts of the InstaDMG script, I could use SIU to create a netinstall of the leopard installer, then target disk mode the newly updated machine and then run iLife installer. Or I could house the iLife installer on a file share. Or use ARD to do it, but these all require another step that I have to start, hence defeating the automation part that I'm gunning for. I suppose I could try to script it so the updated machine, at first boot, downloads and installs the iLife package, but, isn't that what SIU is for! A little more info, I can use other packages I created, like firefox, to install with the SIU, but why not iLife?? I guess I could re-package it, but come on, where is the fun in that! I had the same issue when I was trying to include Xcode 3 in my Leopard upgrade NetInstall set. SIU does not like metapackages. I haven&#8217;t gotten around to automating the Xcode install, so I just do it after the reboot. It&#8217;s not too inconvenient (yet), since I&#8217;m only trickling Leopard out at the moment.]]>
[...] I use the InstaDMG workflow to install the iLife '08 packages into an image which I then prepare for NetInstall via SIU. (though I use my own python script rather than InstaDMG's bourne script) I was able to use the mpkg on the iLive '08 DVD for this. [...]]]>
On May 6, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Ryan Lovett wrote: On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 01:52:19PM -0400, Rusty Zink Myers wrote: > quoted text [...] Yeah, I can get iLife on an instaDMG workflow fine, but the problem there is that it creates another image to deploy, not a networked leopard installer disc that I can use to upgrade or archive and install. If I used parts of the InstaDMG script, I could use SIU to create a netinstall of the leopard installer, then target disk mode the newly updated machine and then run iLife installer. Or I could house the iLife installer on a file share. Or use ARD to do it, but these all require another step that I have to start, hence defeating the automation part that I'm gunning for. I suppose I could try to script it so the updated machine, at first boot, downloads and installs the iLife package, but, isn't that what SIU is for! A little more info, I can use other packages I created, like firefox, to install with the SIU, but why not iLife?? I guess I could re-package it, but come on, where is the fun in that!]]>
Hi All, I have to upgrade a bunch of machines to leopard and I want to use netboot to do it. I have been able in the past, and still can, to use the Leopard installer dvd and system image utility to create an netinstaller that will upgrade the machines. [...]]]>
[...] Although I always put everything in a pkg, LANrev can install a VISE installer as well. They are the only CM system I've seen that can do this. Josh -- Josh Wisenbaker U, U, D, D, L, R, L, R, B, A, Start for your server http://www.afp548. [...]]]>
At first, I wanted to look at that. I used to use their MakethisMac (IIRC) product in the OS9 days. When they updated to the Casper product line it did not fit my needs early on. I asked if Composer could support Apple PKG form, instead of just the DMG that their product supported at the time. [...]]]>
I now use Composer - part of the Casper Suite <http://www.jamfsoftware.com/products/composer.php> - for 90% of my school's software (re)imaging and deployment. Jeff Milwaukee On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Perbix, Michael <email@hidden> wrote: > quoted text [...]]]>
I have not, and this is exactly why I never get into installerVise. I repackage everything I need into an Apple .pkg, so it can be installed via GUI by my techs, scripts and pushed out with a shell script via ssh, ARD, or LANrev, and pushed out if needed via ARD. [...]]]>
[...] Unless you're talking about repackaging the contents of the InstallerVise installer into a PackageMaker package, no. This email sent to email@hidden References: [...] InstallerVise and ARD Previous by thread: InstallerVise and ARD Index(es): Date Thread [...]]]>
Has anybody figured out anyway other than an AppleScript and the InstallerVise file to be able to push out InstallerVise "packages" via ARD? Thanks, Phil]]>
[...] Have you investigated the InstaDMG methodology for imaging? I believe it's very pkg-oriented, so it might fit nicely with your plans. Check out afp548.com. Matt]]>