macos-x-server Mailing List http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/index.html macos-x-server Mailing List Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:35:01 +0000 Re: DNS Alias Entry Limit ? - Tiger Server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00046.html Reply to list

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Can you provide more details? What are the errors? Are you using  
ServerAdmin to add the aliases? Have you tried looking at the zone  
file? Anything of note there? 

 We can probably help you with a bit more information.  
 Jaime Magiera  
 Sensory Research, Inc.
http://www.sensoryresearch. [...]
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DNS Alias Entry Limit ? - Tiger Server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00045.html Reply to list

Has anyone come across a limit of aliases you can assign an IP address  
in Tiger server ? (10.4.11) 
It would seem that once you get beyond about 15 the DNS server stops  
working altogether. 

 I've done a bit of testing in 10.5 and it does not seem to do this. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00044.html Reply to list

On Jul 2, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Bryan Dulock wrote:             On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Brian F. Opitz wrote:     elusiv3 wrote: I have been using Time Machine as a backup on a few servers for about 6 months with no issues. It's very handy for restoring files to user homes. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00043.html Reply to list

On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Brian F. Opitz wrote:     elusiv3 wrote: I have been using Time Machine as a backup on a few servers for about 6 months with no issues. It's very handy for restoring files to user homes. If a user deletes a file that was there an hour ago I can very easily get it back. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00042.html Reply to list

[...]

Apple included it in the Server product so you could use it to backup  
client computers.  It's good at that.  It is not intended to backup  
the advanced features of the server itself, as the 'Getting Started'  
PDF states: 

 Getting_Started_v10.5. [...]
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Re: Time Machine Server over SMB? NFS? share points http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00041.html Reply to list

[...]

If you've got an Xserve running OS X Server, why on earth don't you  
just use AFP for the Time Machine backups?

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It will indeed use SMB, but it's not supported by Apple and as far as  
I'm aware they get it to work in exactly the same way, their software   [...]
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XServe Raid expansion question http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00040.html Reply to list

Apologies, if this was asked here or elsewhere before but I could not  
find the right answer in the archives. 
I have taken over an Xserve Raid 1. gen. with 4 x 500GB (plus 1 hot  
spare) on each controller side. Each side is a Raid 5 array and the  
attached Server (Mac OS X Server 10.5. [...]
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Re: Time Machine Server over SMB? NFS? share points http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00039.html Reply to list
[...]

Thanks James, that did it. Worked perfect. I set up an SAMBA server on the Xserve and the MacBook (which I changed its defaults for per your suggestion) worked great.    > quoted text

 I believe you, but I am willing to bet that the HP MediaSmart server does not use AFP and instead uses SAMBA for its NAS and its support of Time Machine backup to its NAS. It would not surprise me if the MediaSmart software that one would run on, say, a MacBook, does exactly what you suggested (hack the defaults hashtable). LOL! 
 Serg   > quoted text

  
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00038.html Reply to list

[...]

My primary concern with using Time Machine for backup of a server to  
do with the notification of when there is a problem and the  
scalability of the system as you have to manage more servers. 

I use LBackup for the backup of user data on Mac OS X. [...]
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Re: XServe G5 with Promise VTrak RAID http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00037.html Reply to list
Britt,

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Hard to tell, they say "some models" (plural) and then specify one  
revision. 
Vague or poorly-composed documentation raises red flags. 

 -- Tom  
 
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Re: XServe G5 with Promise VTrak RAID http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00036.html Reply to list

Britt,

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Nope. From their web site:  
What Fibre Channel cards are 'approved'? 
Submitted Jun 08 by Active Storage 
We have certified the Apple 2Gb and 4Gb dual and quad port Fibre  
Channel cards.(Apple Part 
Numbers: MA900G/A, MB355G/A, MB355G/A) Based on need and customer   [...]
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Re: XServe G5 with Promise VTrak RAID http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00035.html Reply to list
[...]

I am, and have had no difficulties at all with it. My Xserve is a G5 2.0GHz
cluster node, and it has a single (of four total) LUN assigned to it.
 
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Re: hdiutil compact : crontab http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00034.html Reply to list

If you have an AppleScript which is launched by Cron (your login - not  
root) and you are logged into the system then this should provide your  
command (executed by the AppleScript) with access to the login session  
and thus access to the keychain. 

 I am not 100% sure that this will work. [...]
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XServe G5 with Promise VTrak RAID http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00033.html Reply to list

Hi,  
Our company needs to add direct-connect (no XSAN) storage to a  
fileserver which is an XServe G5 with an LSI7202XP (M9274G/C) 2Gb FC  
card. We want to purchase an Apple Promise VTrak now, but cannot  
reassign or purchase an Intel XServe (with an LSI7404EP (MB356G/A) 4Gb   [...]
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Re: System Restore on OSXS? http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00032.html Reply to list

You can boot off the Leopard install DVD and restore an entire  
volume.  You can select from any of the Time Machine restore points.   
You'll erase the volume and then copy back all the data from that  
point in time. 

On Jul 2, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Jonathon Kuo

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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00031.html Reply to list

Title: Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server 




Volker, Jim wrote:


  On 7/2/09 9:30 AM, "Hakan Kaya" <email@hidden> wrote: 

Am 02.07.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Brian F. Opitz: 

   elusiv3 wrote:  


      I have been using Time Machine as a backup on [...]
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Re: System Restore on OSXS? http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00030.html Reply to list

On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:15 PM, James Palmer wrote:  
 Time Machine

[...]

Okay, I'm getting lost here. I was under the impression that Time  
Machine is for user files, and then only for restoring files one at a  
time, not for system-wide checkpoints at a certain date? [...]
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RE: System Restore on OSXS? http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00029.html Reply to list
Time Machine

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Uh, who's going to explain Pacifist? 1,2,3....not it!

- JD

 
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Re: System Restore on OSXS? http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00028.html Reply to list
Time Machine  

On Jul 2, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Jonathon Kuo

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Re: System Restore on OSXS? http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00027.html Reply to list
[...]

Nope, no such thing on MacOS X. Either you have backups, or your re- 
install (potentially without removing the data/settings, but on a  
server I would not do this). 

 --
	Karl Kuehn
	email@hidden  

 
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System Restore on OSXS? http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00026.html Reply to list
Coming from a Windows background I assume there's something akin to  
'System Restore' on OSXS. How do you revert changes to the OS (or go  
back to a known good state), short of a full reinstall from backups? 

 
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00025.html Reply to list

Title: Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server 



On 7/2/09 9:30 AM, "Hakan Kaya" <email@hidden> wrote: 

Am 02.07.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Brian F. Opitz: 
  elusiv3 wrote:  
  I have been using Time Machine as a backup on a few servers for about 6 months with no issues. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00024.html Reply to list

Greetings - 

My .o2 -

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Second: pls don't top post

Agreed as noted: YMMV with TM, based on your backup up needs assessment and
subsequent policy and strategy.

My experience: For a couple of machines, TM to a mirrored pair fits the
requirements for their policy. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00023.html Reply to list

Am 02.07.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Brian F. Opitz:     elusiv3 wrote: I have been using Time Machine as a backup on a few servers for about 6 months with no issues. It's very handy for restoring files to user homes. If a user deletes a file that was there an hour ago I can very easily get it back. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00022.html Reply to list

Thanks, we do have a strategy. Just looking for alternatives to the tape and the associated maintenance of cleaning and replacing the tape drive.  Not to mention the scanning and wait for a tape set. 


 Peter Beninate <email@hidden> on July 2, 2009 at 7:08 AM -0600 wrote:  [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00021.html Reply to list
You really need to develop a backup and recovery strategy for your severs. I find that in MOST cases, restoring a server OS is time consuming and unreliable. So in MOST cases, i find it more effective to restore by doing a clean OS install and restoring config files and/or licenses for services (and of course any data such as shares or mailstores). This simplifies the backup process because only config files and data need to be backed up, not a live OS. Let me emphasize again, this works in SOME but NOT ALL situations. You really need to handle each server as a separate and unique case. But putting a restore process down on paper will help you pick a backup strategy, and thus, a backup solution.     Peter Beninate  Systems Engineer  Agilex
 Technologies, Inc. > quoted text


        
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00020.html Reply to list

Hello,
I then several years of "Intego Backup" on different servers.
I use cloning.
It is also possible to do it automatically.
With this system it is even possible to start the server on the clone.
You can download a free version uses 30 days.
The program costs less than $ 100
Good day. [...]
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Re: Time Machine Server over SMB? NFS? share points http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00019.html Reply to list

[...]

The only officially supported protocol is AFP.  You can get it working  
over any network share by telling the Mac to show unsupported shares  
and by creating the backup in a sparse disk image, which will work  
(although you have to set the TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes   [...]
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Time Machine Server over SMB? NFS? share points http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00018.html Reply to list

Hello all --  I've successfully set up File Sharing on Mac OS X Server 10.5 on an Xserve to enable a Share Point with the "Enable as Time machine backup destination" check box checked, and I've had no problem using a MacBook with Time Machine to backup to this Share Point when using AFP. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00017.html Reply to list

On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Brian F. Opitz wrote:

[...]

Yes, Time Machine does quite well for what it was designed for. The
home user. If you were in a bind -D2D RAID down and tape drive on the
fritz and BU software hosed in an update- then maybe, as a last resort, [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00016.html Reply to list

On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Brian F. Opitz wrote:  > quoted text
   Lunacy? I think you may have gone just a bit overboard. Time Machine works quite well for what it does. As long as you understand how it works I think it's fine if you want to use it. It's just another option for backup. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00015.html Reply to list
On 02/07/2009, at 12:30 AM, Steve Meredith wrote:  > quoted text
        On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:13 PM, elusiv3 wrote:  > quoted text
       (as an aside, I'll put in my vote & suggestion against top-posting, please)     The larger problem here is that answering such a vague question merits vague answers.     The question is akin to "will I like such-and-such brand sneakers" ? With no other details apart from you liked your old dress shoes that lasted for years, but want to wear sneakers now.  Time Machine as noted, is not appropriate for many kinds of services. Also, without proper rotation of the storage media (including off-site storage), it's not backup in the same way  that tape can be.     Context is everything, so: what services are running, what plans do you have for ensuring that you use enough multiple devices/drives and arrangements for offsite storage ?  What are you logging requirements ? Does TM give you truly granular enough control (ie: not much !) over retention of data and what are your needs & policies in that regard ? etc.     those are just a few beginning questions.     Two separate drives is what I'd consider sub-optimal. Drives can do fail. What happens if Drive 2 has a badly needed file and it gets dropped down a flight of stairs or  worse ?             
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00014.html Reply to list

I have been using Time Machine as a backup on a few
servers for about 6 months with no issues. It's very handy for
restoring files to user homes. If a user deletes a file that was there
an hour ago I can very easily get it back. Depending on your backup up [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00013.html Reply to list
I have been using Time Machine as a backup on a few servers for about 6 months with no issues. It's very handy for restoring files to user homes. If a user deletes a file that was there an hour ago I can very easily get it back. Depending on your backup up needs and the services that your server is running I think Time Machine is a very good reliable option.       On 02/07/2009, at 12:30 AM, Steve Meredith wrote:  > quoted text
       
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00012.html Reply to list

From: Craig Kabis <email@hidden>

[...]

Thanks, Craig! I need a good laugh this morning, as well.  
The basic problem is that you can't do a quiescent backup of a running  
system. 

It seems to me that either Time Machine or CrashPlan are adequate for   [...]
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Re: 10.3.9 Server Authentication Issues http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00011.html Reply to list

On Jul 1, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Eric Paulsen wrote:       > quoted text

[...]

You might want to try it now if authentication is currently working, in order to see what normal, working auth looks like logged via debug mode  ie: more info, build a better baseline. [...]
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Re: 10.3.9 Server Authentication Issues http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00010.html Reply to list
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The next time it goes deaf, I'll give this a shot. Thanks. ---  Eric         
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Re: 10.3.9 Server Authentication Issues http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00009.html Reply to list
On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Eric Paulsen wrote:   On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:31 PM, James Palmer wrote:  > quoted text

[...]

Try putting DIrectory Service in debug mode by issuing:     sudo killall -USR1 DirectoryService   try a client login & observe the results, and when done re-issue the same command to take DS out of debug mode.       
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Re: hdiutil compact : crontab http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00008.html Reply to list

On Jul 1, 2009, at 3:18 AM, Graham Lee wrote:  
On 01/07/2009 08:55, "Ashwin Patil" <email@hidden>  
wrote:

[...]

You could avoid keeping the password on disk if you were using a  
remote key server that your script could poll the key from; either  
using an http server or something like PKS. [...]
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Re: 10.3.9 Server Authentication Issues http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00007.html Reply to list
[...]

Clients are 10.4.x and 10.5.x and this affects everyone simultaneously  
as does the above mentioned remedy, which is why I believe it to be  
server related. 

As for the logs, ServerAdmin OD error log is empty. Any other  
suggestions?  
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RE: 10.3.9 Server Authentication Issues http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00006.html Reply to list

Greetings,

My aging 10.3.9 Xserve has developed an annoying problem this summer.  
We are on break and have no students on campus, so I guess the timing  
couldn't be better. Anyway, the server is our OD master with web, AFP,  
FTP, VPN, and Windows services enabled. [...]
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10.3.9 Server Authentication Issues http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00005.html Reply to list

Greetings,  
My aging 10.3.9 Xserve has developed an annoying problem this summer.  
We are on break and have no students on campus, so I guess the timing  
couldn't be better. Anyway, the server is our OD master with web, AFP,  
FTP, VPN, and Windows services enabled. [...]
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Re: Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00004.html Reply to list
[...]

Thanks Steve!  I need a good laugh this morning.


Here is another option.
CrashPlan PRO Server
http://www4.crashplan.com/business/index.html



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Steve Meredith<email@hidden> wrote:

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Time Machine as a Backup for the server http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00003.html Reply to list
I'm new to the list, please forgive me if this has been asked and answered! 

 Our HP Tape backup failed, it can no longer read-write to tape.  I was thinking a faster method would be to use TimeMachine as a server grade backup. 
 Wondering about the reliability, rotation of media (two separate drives) etc. 

 Thoughts? 

 
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Re: hdiutil compact : crontab http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00002.html Reply to list

[...]

there's a clear case of the chicken and the egg there. Let's say you store
your password in an encrypted fashion, say in the keychain. How does your
script get access to the password? By having access to the keychain, which
means it needs to be told what they keychain password is....oh. [...]
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Re: Lightweight asks question lol http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00001.html Reply to list

Hi Mark

Could you explain why you are having a 'forced' upgrade?  Is it the current
G4 going twang or are you having to move to Leopard for other reasons (and
will your backup software work on it).

If it's the former, and approaching the problem from that direction, then [...]
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Re: hdiutil compact : crontab http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2009/Jul/msg00000.html Reply to list

Hi, All  
 I could able to solve this here.  

 USSAGE :  

"hdiutil compact -stinpass /Volumes/Images/test.sparseimage < 
/Volumes/Images/passwordfile.txt" 

It work as expected but we need to maintain the password in plain text in 
the passwordfile.text. But however it solved my task to complete. [...]
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